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PostSubject: Hmmmmm   Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:33 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:03 am

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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:33 pm

I guess the minorities that have been discriminated against the most can now discriminate against the ones who only ranked second.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:22 pm

can i say somthing here? why is jig the only one without a gender symbol?
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:20 pm

Well now, if the Cherokee nation indeed has an atonomous government, why shouldn't they be allowed to vote out non-native people who are a drain to their resources? It was a nice gesture and all for them to include the people that they had inslaved, but they should have put a generational time limit on it. Now, since the Seminoles did not fair to well when they tried to do it, it should prove interesting to see if it works for the Cherokees.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:47 am

Lynelle wrote:
why shouldn't they be allowed to vote out non-native people who are a drain to their resources? It was a nice gesture and all for them to include the people that they had inslaved, but they should have put a generational time limit on it.

But let's think of this on a larger scale... like in our country as a whole.... expand on that logic Lynelle....
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:52 am

Jesse wrote:
Lynelle wrote:
why shouldn't they be allowed to vote out non-native people who are a drain to their resources? It was a nice gesture and all for them to include the people that they had inslaved, but they should have put a generational time limit on it.

But let's think of this on a larger scale... like in our country as a whole.... expand on that logic Lynelle....

Isn't that what our country is already doing with its attempts at immigration control? Root out the non-citizens that are a drain on the country's resources.

This may be narrow-minded, but if the Cherokees have their own "government" system in place, shouldn't they be allowed to make the laws they want? Granted, the last time a nation tried this it wasn't well received and the changes were revoked, but still. I think they should have the ability to make their own governmental decisions based on their governmental structure.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:18 am

When I think of immigrants I automatically think of the people that come over here and work their butts off to support their families (no matter what country they are from).... I don't necessarily think of people that are or have been inslaved and are draining our resources.....
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:20 am

That may be, but there is a clear distinction between immigrants that are here and are citizens and immigrants that are here illegally.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:23 am

If I need to make it plainly obvious... I'm sick of all this apologizing for slavery crap!

If you want an apology then go back the country that you think you belong to!! You nor your parents nor your grandparents are or were slaves. No one living today had anything to do with slavery.

How often does the US ask Japan for apologies for attacking us.... how often does American ask for an apology from Mexico... or Mexico ask for an apology from the US... have I missed something... is the Jewish nation still asking for apologies from Germany??

Ok, it feels better to get that rant over with!!
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:25 am

I think I

Jacked

my own post.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:28 am

Jesse wrote:
I think I

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my own post.


LOL! I think so too! I was trying desperately to coorelate your last post to the topic at hand, and then I saw this one. DoTheWave

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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:24 pm

Coorelation.... Indian's kicked former slaves and/or decendants that had been allowed to become citizens out of their "nation"...... American kicks former slaves and/or decendants that had been allowed to become citizens out of their nation.

I was just tired of hearing the new stories about slavery and VA having to apologize for it. If you want to be a US citizen than shut up... be GRATEFUL that you were born here no matter what your ancestor's had to go through in order for you to have that privilage.

If you want to keep complaining then go back to the "mother land".

The majority of this nation's population has family in their ancestory that immigrated here long ago. They didn't have very nice lives either... I'm not still complaining to England for their religious persecution that drove people across the sea to find a new place to live... I'm thankful!!

If you want to get down to complaining about slavery.. I don't hear the Jews complaining to Egypt for the centuries that they were enslaved there!
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:45 pm

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American kicks former slaves and/or decendants that had been allowed to become citizens out of their nation.


Um, when?

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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:49 am

lol... I'm saying what if America decided to do the same thing
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:53 am

Ok, that makes a little more sense.

If the government decided to try the same thing - I would expect the same results. At the same time though, I see that as very close to what Hitler was trying to achieve with the Jews in WWII. As evidenced by the outcome of the Seminoles decision, public outcry would either result in a change in law or another war.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:59 am

I just want all those that complain about their ancestors being slaves to stop and think....

"where would I be today if my ancestors had not been slaves.... I would be in Africa. Do I like living in America or would I rather be in Africa??"

If you like being in America than stop complaining and be thankful that your ancestors suffered so much that you could now enjoy this blessing.

If you would rather be in Africa THEN GO THERE!!
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:01 am

Jesse wrote:
I just want all those that complain about their ancestors being slaves to stop and think....

"where would I be today if my ancestors had not been slaves.... I would be in Africa. Do I like living in America or would I rather be in Africa??"

If you like being in America than stop complaining and be thankful that your ancestors suffered so much that you could now enjoy this blessing.

If you would rather be in Africa THEN GO THERE!!

Please, tell us how you really feel. Wink I agree with you.

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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:11 am

Brandon was telling me about this black guy that called into a predominately black radio station. They were talking about the apology that Richmond should give. He says "you idiots! Be thankful your here and not dying of aids in the 'mother country.' Shut up and get over it!" They cut off his call...the people in the station were FOR the apology. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:57 pm

Yeah, unfortunately the black nation in the US has predominately turned into a bunch of whiners. They're no longer the largest minority in the US because it went to the Latinos last year, but do you hear the LAtinos whining about anything?

Nope.

Matter of fact they're just stuffing as many of themselves into public offices as fast as they can in an effort to change things here. I say we should annex Mexico, they'd probly be happier. That way our southern border would only be like 500 miles long down against one of the Central American countries, and we could have waaaay more vacation spots in the US.

I think we should kick in Cuba too. I think they wanna be Americans now.
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PostSubject: Re: Hmmmmm   Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:23 pm

If I remember the article, the Cherokees just want the non-indians off the books. They don't have to leave the country. ANd actually, it's a drain on us since we subsidize all their freebees..like medical care. It may be an attempt to NOT have to pay out the gambling bennies too. I know that with the Mohawk Nation every person that is on the books gets a nice check yearly from the casino's.
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